Yochanan Lavie commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi...
I think most Modern Orthodox are more accepting of BT's. I know several BT-FFB marriages in that community.
View Articlenobody commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi Rejection Of...
Yochanan: Many BT-FFB marriages exist in US haredi communities. The article is describing that the situation is different in Israel. I don't know that Israeli MO treats such situations differently than...
View ArticleBen commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi Rejection Of BTs...
Haredim are all into yichus. They have created their own aristocracy which is by the fact of their birth from hosheve parents are superior to the rest of the am haaretz Jews around them. They are the...
View ArticleAlternative Childcare commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi...
Nobody: I know that. Sepharadi/Ashkenazi, so called FFB with BT, marriages involving giyur, are all common within the dati leumi and hesder world. They are far more progressive in that way, which is...
View ArticleSJ commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi Rejection Of BTs...
I don't know who is crazier. Haredim or the people who join them. Teiku.
View Articlepierre commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi Rejection Of...
I think the FFBs are too embracing of lunatics who are going to represent a 'fringe', wherever they are - even if they find themselves in the center of an ideological sphere; "They've got moxie! - they...
View Articleah-pee-chorus commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi...
++ don't know who is crazier. Haredim or the people who join them. Teiku.++ Posted by: SJ | July 14, 2009 at 07:49 PM i will attempt some gemara logic to answer. if one assumes the lifestyle is a good...
View ArticleDK commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi Rejection Of BTs...
BTs often don't know what they are getting into until it is too late. But as education is increased, more Jews will understand the contempt of the ultra-Orthodox is rooted in yichus, not just a belief...
View ArticleBen commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi Rejection Of BTs...
DK, I agree, most BTs are starry eyed naive idealists. Unfortunately way to often their beautiful idealism is being crushed by the very people who sing siren songs to them in the beginnig. This is...
View ArticleYoni commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi Rejection Of BTs...
Here in the center of uber-secular Tel-Aviv, there's a BT kehilla led by Rav Ephraim Auerbach, son of Rav S.Z. Auerbach z'l. The kehilla consists of many creative types: artists, musicians, writers,...
View ArticleJeff Eyges commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi Rejection...
Shmarya, who is Doron? What's his orientation? Is he Hareidi, or an MO sympathizer? I'm curious as to his motivation for wanting to exonerate the FFB factions.
View ArticleBen commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi Rejection Of BTs...
Yoni, it is interesting that Rav Auerbach sees that the results of applying "true Torah halachic way" that Haredim claim to master to life is terrible. The only question in my mind is - whether or not...
View ArticleDr. Dave commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi Rejection Of...
Ben, The chareidi world is the result of misapplying the Torah. Chareidim are not religious Jews. Chareidim ignore most of the Torah, particularly parts about dealing with your fellow man. Chareidim...
View ArticleYoni commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi Rejection Of BTs...
Ben - you ask "Is it not something like saying it is Ok to habitually use heroin, just don't look at those shaking people under the bridge, they did not use it properly?" My quick answer would be that...
View ArticleBen commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi Rejection Of BTs...
Dr.Dave, Yoni, I agree with your explanations, but Haredi do claim to be the ONLY LEGITIMATE TORAH TRUE JEWS! Furthermore, great majority of regular non-haredi Jews, including modern othodox agree with...
View ArticleBen commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi Rejection Of BTs...
Yoni, majority of democratic leaders did not give much credit to the names of German Democratic Republic and Democratic Republic Republic of Korea. They despareged them openly. This is not that case...
View Articlejustayid commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi Rejection Of...
Ben Conservative Judaism believe in Halacha (pace Tucker and Gilman) and quite explicitly do not think Haredim are the only torah true jews. In your political analogy, it would be like pointing out...
View Articlenobody commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi Rejection Of...
"Dr.Dave, Yoni, I agree with your explanations, but Haredi do claim to be the ONLY LEGITIMATE TORAH TRUE JEWS! " So what if they say that? Ben, you only type this, or something like this, (and a major...
View Articlewhoever commented on 'Blaming the Victims: Academic Says Haredi Rejection Of...
being a bt myself, i can attest to all the discrimination that exists here. i shaped myself so well that it may be at times impossible to tell whether i am a bt or not, although the fact that i started...
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